AMAZON.COM Trying To Force Out POD publishers. - The Book Marketing Network2024-03-28T20:11:42Zhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/forum/topics/523145:Topic:88139?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI buy from Amazon re-sellers…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2009-12-01:523145:Comment:2541552009-12-01T07:50:34.520ZDINESH RAVIhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/DINESHRAVI
I buy from Amazon re-sellers all the time. I haven't had any more (or less) problems with them than I've had with any other internet vendors.However I heard about AmazingWatcher.Com which is a free website that will “watch” items for you on Amazon and let you know when amazon has them in stock at regular retail price.<a href="http://www.amazingwatcher.com" target="_blank"></a>
I buy from Amazon re-sellers all the time. I haven't had any more (or less) problems with them than I've had with any other internet vendors.However I heard about AmazingWatcher.Com which is a free website that will “watch” items for you on Amazon and let you know when amazon has them in stock at regular retail price.<a href="http://www.amazingwatcher.com" target="_blank"></a> Currently those publishing co…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-06-08:523145:Comment:990522008-06-08T03:29:32.832ZPeter N. Joneshttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/flashgordon
Currently those publishing companies using Lightning Source as their printer are unaffected. Lulu is still ok (but they use LSI for their "distribution package"). I'm not sure on the others (e.g., Tafford), but it looks like Amazon got the big ones to cave in and have left the smaller presses alone for now. Let's hope it stays that way.<br />
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Currently those publishing companies using Lightning Source as their printer are unaffected. Lulu is still ok (but they use LSI for their "distribution package"). I'm not sure on the others (e.g., Tafford), but it looks like Amazon got the big ones to cave in and have left the smaller presses alone for now. Let's hope it stays that way.<br />
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Editor: <a href="http://indigenouspeoplesissues.com">Indigenous Peoples Issues & Resources</a> Wow that is scary...I am publ…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-06-03:523145:Comment:984682008-06-03T13:23:59.187ZStacey T Pollockhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/StaceyTPollock
Wow that is scary...I am published through a company that relies on POD. I am also setting up an account at Amazon...I hope that it does not turn into a shambles!<br />
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This still means that my book will be viewed through Amazon?<br />
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Is it for all POD publishing or only some companies?
Wow that is scary...I am published through a company that relies on POD. I am also setting up an account at Amazon...I hope that it does not turn into a shambles!<br />
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This still means that my book will be viewed through Amazon?<br />
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Is it for all POD publishing or only some companies? The Washington State governme…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-05-10:523145:Comment:953032008-05-10T10:38:23.873ZShel Horowitzhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/ShelHorowitz
The Washington State government has decided they don't have jurisdiction and that tis is a federal matter (under the current administration, I don't hope for much relief there). Meanwhile, I have canceled my membership in Amazon's affiliate program and asked my assistant to take down all the buy links (she hasn't done so yet), and shifted my own buying to powells.com, bn.com, and of course my local independent bookstores.<br />
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Unfortunately, a few of the major subsidy houses caved pretty quickly,…
The Washington State government has decided they don't have jurisdiction and that tis is a federal matter (under the current administration, I don't hope for much relief there). Meanwhile, I have canceled my membership in Amazon's affiliate program and asked my assistant to take down all the buy links (she hasn't done so yet), and shifted my own buying to powells.com, bn.com, and of course my local independent bookstores.<br />
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Unfortunately, a few of the major subsidy houses caved pretty quickly, and Ingram has been amazingly quiet. But a number of writer and publisher groups (PMA, SPAN, NWU, Authors Guild, some others) have joined the complaint, and even Publish America, a company I usually detest, issued a very strong statement.<br />
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Shel Horowitz, author of Grassroots Marketing for Authors and Publishers<br />
<a href="http://www.grassrootsmarketingforauthors.com">http://www.grassrootsmarketingforauthors.com</a> I like your idea of a writers…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-05-08:523145:Comment:951452008-05-08T20:14:29.245ZMargaret Garsidehttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/MargaretGarside
I like your idea of a writers' collective. For one thing, it sounds feasible. I'll sign on.<br />
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We must stick together. No one else will look out for us. I am so disappointed with Amazon. I honestly thought it was about books and bringing readers together. Turns out it was about World Domination all along.
I like your idea of a writers' collective. For one thing, it sounds feasible. I'll sign on.<br />
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We must stick together. No one else will look out for us. I am so disappointed with Amazon. I honestly thought it was about books and bringing readers together. Turns out it was about World Domination all along. And prints on Booksurge. Shoc…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-04-10:523145:Comment:906922008-04-10T03:39:04.335ZLinton Robinsonhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/LintonRobinson
And prints on Booksurge. Shocking, huh?<br />
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These guys are as evil as MicroSoft and share the impulse to own.<br />
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CreateSpace...you get published, but only in our stores.<br />
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Kindle...you get to read eBooks, but only ours (and pay twice as much for the product so it can have a direct internet link to our store)<br />
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So now it's, Sure, you can sell POD here, just print it at our inferior printer.
And prints on Booksurge. Shocking, huh?<br />
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These guys are as evil as MicroSoft and share the impulse to own.<br />
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CreateSpace...you get published, but only in our stores.<br />
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Kindle...you get to read eBooks, but only ours (and pay twice as much for the product so it can have a direct internet link to our store)<br />
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So now it's, Sure, you can sell POD here, just print it at our inferior printer. Yes, CreateSpace is owned by…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-04-09:523145:Comment:906122008-04-09T22:06:29.764ZShel Horowitzhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/ShelHorowitz
Yes, CreateSpace is owned by Amazon<br />
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Shel Horowitz, Grassroots Marketing for Authors and Publishers<br />
<a href="http://www.grassrootsmarketingforauthors.com">http://www.grassrootsmarketingforauthors.com</a>
Yes, CreateSpace is owned by Amazon<br />
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Shel Horowitz, Grassroots Marketing for Authors and Publishers<br />
<a href="http://www.grassrootsmarketingforauthors.com">http://www.grassrootsmarketingforauthors.com</a> Wanted to share what I reciev…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-04-09:523145:Comment:905532008-04-09T17:35:45.644Zdeborah thomashttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/deborahthomas
Wanted to share what I recieve froom on another group about Amazon. Also the top paragraph is my comment on something else that was sponsered by Amazon:<br />
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I have another interesting point to add to this Amazon nightmare. If you remember last november/december, Amazon ran this contest, Breakthru Artist, requesting people to enter ( the first 5,000) for a chance to be published by CreateSpace and available by, quess who? Amazon.. You heard about the first round of semifinalist (supposibly 800) in…
Wanted to share what I recieve froom on another group about Amazon. Also the top paragraph is my comment on something else that was sponsered by Amazon:<br />
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I have another interesting point to add to this Amazon nightmare. If you remember last november/december, Amazon ran this contest, Breakthru Artist, requesting people to enter ( the first 5,000) for a chance to be published by CreateSpace and available by, quess who? Amazon.. You heard about the first round of semifinalist (supposibly 800) in January and the did announce the winner last week. anyways, the prize for those not selected into the semifinals is a galley of your book with no services (editing, layout outside of theirs, cover art - a plain yellowish color with faint waterwheel, etc). i'm not sure if you publish thru them, what the cost would be. CreateSpace is a POD publisher on it's own from what i was able to gather but am now wondering if they are part of Amazon or are pulled into this also? some other food for thought for those who participated in that contest.<br />
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Diane J Newton wrote:<br />
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ATG WWW E-mail Antitrust Seattle wrote:<br />
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Subject: AGO Antitrust Complaint: Amazon.com/Booksurge/Publish-on-demand<br />
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:01:06 -0700<br />
From: "ATG WWW E-mail Antitrust Seattle"<br />
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Greetings,<br />
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You are receiving this message because you have contacted the Washington State Office of the Attorney General in regard to Amazon.com and its use of its publish-on-demand service, Booksurge.<br />
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In order to properly process your complaint, we will need you to fill out the attached complaint form and provide us further information. I have also attached the link to our online form from our website which contains the same form for a speedier transmittal.<br />
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<a href="https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler/ago/AntitrustComplaint.aspx">https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler/ago/AntitrustComplaint.aspx</a><br />
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Thank you for contacting the Washington State Office of Attorney General and we look forward to receiving your additional information.<br />
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Antitrust Division<br />
Washington State<br />
Office of the Attorney General<br />
800 5th Ave, #2000<br />
Seattle, WA 98104<br />
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To: ATG WWW E-mail Antitrust Seattle<br />
Subject: Please investigate Amazon.com<br />
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To whom it may concern:<br />
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I have great concern about actions currently being taken by Amazon.com. Amazon has traditionally made its platform open to independent authors using publish-on-demand (POD) services provided by numerous companies. Now, Amazon is moving to exclude any author who does not use Amazon's own POD service, Booksurge. Many, many authors have had problems with Booksurge, including not getting paid. In addition, authors who do make the transition will be forced to charge more in order to cover the costs of using Amazon's printing services in addition to the fees Amazon charges for selling products on its web site. To force all indepenent authors to use a single, inferior service, a service owned by the same company providing the marketplace, that will also result in higher prices for consumers, seems to be a good fit for the following anti-competitive activity described on your web site:<br />
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Business mergers and monopolistic practices that would result in reduced competition and harm to consumers.<br />
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Amazon controls such a large portion of the print-on-demand book market that by forcing authors to use its print-on-demand service, it is reducing the number of POD options to one. The harm to consumers comes in the form of products of poorer quality (as evidenced by the large number of complaints about the Booksurge service) and higher prices. I respectfully ask that you take a serious look at this new practice by Amazon.com and make a fair judgement about whether or not the company is in violation of the antitrust provisions of Washington's Unfair Business Practices-Consumer Protection Act.<br />
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Thanks for bringing m…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-04-08:523145:Comment:904302008-04-08T20:44:34.875ZJoseph Langenhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/JosephLangen
Linton,<br />
Thanks for bringing me up to date. Do George and Dick work for Amazon or it for them? Sounds like suspiciously similar specious reasoning.<br />
Joe
Linton,<br />
Thanks for bringing me up to date. Do George and Dick work for Amazon or it for them? Sounds like suspiciously similar specious reasoning.<br />
Joe Reeks of repentance and co-op…tag:thebookmarketingnetwork.com,2008-04-08:523145:Comment:903972008-04-08T19:03:45.553ZLinton Robinsonhttp://thebookmarketingnetwork.com/profile/LintonRobinson
Reeks of repentance and co-operation, no?<br />
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I seriously doubt this is an anti-trust matter. Perhaps some sort of restraint of trade. It would be interesting to find out what the structure is like of their contracts with POD publishers to put them on their site. My guess is, not much. But the publishers have assured customers that they will.
Reeks of repentance and co-operation, no?<br />
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I seriously doubt this is an anti-trust matter. Perhaps some sort of restraint of trade. It would be interesting to find out what the structure is like of their contracts with POD publishers to put them on their site. My guess is, not much. But the publishers have assured customers that they will.